Harry Barrett

Harry Barrett

Male 1870 -

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  • Name Harry Barrett  [1, 2, 3, 4
    Birth 08 Oct 1870  Longworth, Berkshire, England View who/what we know about this place  [2, 3, 4
    Gender Male 
    Census 1871  Fyfield, Berkshire, England View who/what we know about this place  [5
    1871 England
    1871 England
    Census 1881  Churches Cottages, Fyfield, Berkshire, England View who/what we know about this place  [6
    1881 England
    1881 England
    Census 1901  White House, Shepherds Hill, Harefield, Middlesex, England View who/what we know about this place  [7
    1901 England
    1901 England
    Census 2 Apr 1911  The Lodge Golf Club, Dudden Hill Lane, Neasden, Middlesex, England View who/what we know about this place 
    1911 England
    1911 England
    Occupation 1901  Harefield, Middlesex, England View who/what we know about this place  [7
    Gardener 
    Siblings 10 siblings 
    Histories
    Letter from Nellie (Ellen) Costar (née Barrett) to Gertrude
    Letter from Nellie (Ellen) Costar (née Barrett) to Gertrude
    Notes 
    • Harry Barrett born 1870 6:24),

      This is the great grandfather of Sheila, Paul & Christine Barrett, and a mystery man. Dad started the family research to try and find out what happened to him. Harry was born on 8th October 1970 at Longworth in Berkshire and was the 3rd child of Ferberd & Ellen.

      Married Mary Ann Chandler @ Arborfield parish Church on 17th November 1894,

      Harry was a gardener at Arborfield Hall and Mary was in service there and the Hargreaves Family owned the hall at that time. (See picture plates)

      Harry & Mary Ann had 6 children:
      Ferberd Henry (grandfather) born 1895 @ Newland, Berks
      Lionel Leander born 1897 @ Longworth
      Alfred George born 1898 @Newland
      Alice Mabel born 1899 @ Harefield Middlesex (died 1903)
      Harry born 1903 @Harefield
      Eric Reginald born 1908 no birth record found to date but Married in 1933 age 25.

      So the family moved from Newland to Harefield between July 1898 when Alfred was born and November 1899 when Alice was born.

      They could not be found on the 1901 census searching under any of their names but found them by a county and town search, although I don’t understand why they couldn’t be found by an ordinary person search.

      They were living at The White House, Shepherd’s Hill Harefield. (See diagram of Harefield Mills)

      When the family moved to Harefield, Harry was a market gardener. He was around in 1903 as son Harry was born that year and Alice his only daughter died that year and he was present at her death. He was obviously around until 1908, when Eric was born.

      The family story is that Harry worked long periods away from home and eventually didn’t return. This made life very difficult for the family, who often had to live “off the parish”. By 1920, when grandfather married, the family were living in Iver, Bucks and then around 1930 the family had moved to Hillingdon, Middlesex.

      My grandfather was supposed to have seen Harry in a train one night in Iver, so perhaps he was trying to make contact.According to Aunt Edna, Harry did write to the family, maybe via Ellen, but Grandfather Ferberd refused to allow him to come. It is not known what year this might have been. His sister Ellen used to write to his wife Mary occasionally with news of him and sent small sums of money. The last that was heard of him was between 1939 and 1943 in a letter Ellen sent to say she had heard from friends to say he’d sold his house and was in hospital. Unfortunately, Ellen did not put the year on the letter but Mary died in 1943 and Ellen talks of someone being killed in the war.

      Older members of the family insist he went to Canada but having searched all available passenger lists, there is nothing conclusive to back up this theory. 1 reference for a Harry was found, the right age going to Montreal in 1930 and another for 1910 to Sydney, Australia.
      To date August 2018, he cannot be found on 1920 Canadian census.
      This is still being investigated. (August 2008) as have no idea where or when he died.

      Found Harry on the 1911 census as a Jobbing Gardener @Neasden Golf Club. Full address The Lodge, Golf Club, Dudding Hill, Neasden. He is described as Head of Household with an Emily Sculper and 3 Sculper children. Emily is described as housekeeper. It is quite probable that they are living together as none of them are described as lodger. It was thought among the family that he had become involved with someone. This is not intended to be judgemental but is a point of interest in the lives of our ancestors.

      On 1901 census Emily has a husband Walter Sculper but he is not found on the 1911 census and not in death indexes between the censuses. Emily is described as being married and not a widow on the 1911 census.

      This is another piece of the puzzle as it is now known that Harry was still in England in 1911. Will this bring is nearer to knowing when he went to Canada? Carried out another passenger list search from 1911 to 1921 and then increased the search up to 1945. Found a Mr & Mrs Barrett, no first names given, date of departure 10/01/ 1914 from Liverpool to Halifax. Although there is no proof that this is him, it is the most promising information found to date. Am uncertain how to proceed to find any info’ from Canada. Will review later.
      TO DATE AUGUST 2018, he cannot be found on 1920 Canadian census.
      Another interesting discovery which may or may not have any relevance is that while searching for Harry I came across a Leander Barrett age 18 sailing from Liverpool to Halifax on the 1st November 1940. Leander is an unusual name and one of Harry’s sons by Mary is Lionel Leander.

      Could not find anything in birth indexes for a Leander Barrett searching between 1920 and 1924.
    Person ID I214  Main Tree | 7990 Barrett
    Last Modified 7 Aug 2018 

    Parent Ferberd Barrett,   b. 28 Jul 1846, Fyfield, Berkshire, England View who/what we know about this placed. 12 Nov 1924, Woodhouse Cottage, Fyfield, Berkshire, England View who/what we know about this place (Age 78 years) 
    Parent Ellen Richings,   b. 18 Nov 1844, Longworth, Berkshire, England View who/what we know about this placebur. Dec 1908, Abingdon, Berkshire, England View who/what we know about this place 
    Marriage 03 Feb 1866  Longworth, Berkshire, England View who/what we know about this place  [1
    Marriage Certificate
    Marriage Certificate
    Marriage Index
    Marriage Index
    Marriage Index
    Marriage Index
    Family ID F48  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Spouse / Partner Mary Ann Chandler,   b. 22 Feb 1874, Newland, Berkshire, England View who/what we know about this placed. 13 Aug 1943, Hillingdon Hospital, Pield Heath Road, Middlesex, England View who/what we know about this place (Age 69 years) 
    Marriage 17 Nov 1894  Arborfield Parish Church, Arborfield, Berkshire, England View who/what we know about this place  [1
    Marriage Certificate
    Marriage Certificate
    Children 
    +1. Ferberd Henry Barrett,   b. 23 May 1895, Clay Lane, Newland, Berkshire, England View who/what we know about this placed. 30 Apr 1954, Mount Pleasant Hospital, Southall, Middlesex, England View who/what we know about this place (Age 58 years)
    +2. Lionel Leander Barrett,   b. 09 Jan 1897, Longworth, Berkshire, England View who/what we know about this placed. 4 May 1956, Mount Vernon Hospital, Northwood, Middlesex, England View who/what we know about this place (Age 59 years)
    +3. Alfred George Barrett,   b. 23 Jul 1898, Carters Hill, Newland, England View who/what we know about this place
     4. Alice Mabel Barrett,   b. 15 Nov 1899, White House, Shepherds Hill, Harefield, Middlesex, England View who/what we know about this placed. 19 Feb 1903, White House, Shepherds Hill, Harefield, Middlesex, England View who/what we know about this place (Age 3 years)  [Parent: natural]
    +5. Harry Barrett,   b. 14 Jul 1903, White House, Shepherds Hill, Harefield, Middlesex, England View who/what we know about this place  [Parent: natural]
    +6. Eric Barrett,   b. 1905, Harefield, Middlesex, England View who/what we know about this place
    Marriages and Bans
    Marriage Index
    Marriage Index
    Family ID F60  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart
    Last Modified 25 Mar 2018 

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    Link to Google MapsBirth - 08 Oct 1870 - Longworth, Berkshire, England Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsCensus - 1871 - Fyfield, Berkshire, England Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsCensus - 1881 - Churches Cottages, Fyfield, Berkshire, England Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsCensus - 1901 - White House, Shepherds Hill, Harefield, Middlesex, England Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsMarriage - 17 Nov 1894 - Arborfield Parish Church, Arborfield, Berkshire, England Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsCensus - 2 Apr 1911 - The Lodge Golf Club, Dudden Hill Lane, Neasden, Middlesex, England Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsOccupation - Gardener - 1901 - Harefield, Middlesex, England Link to Google Earth
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  • Sources 
    1. [S13] FreeBMD, England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1915.

    2. [S31] 1881 England Census, Class: RG11; Piece: 1279; Folio: 121; Page: 8; GSU roll: 1341312.
      Birth date: abt 1871),
      (Birth place: Longworth, Berkshire, England),
      (Residence date: 1881),
      (Residence place: Longworth, Berkshire, England

    3. [S32] 1901 England Census, Class: RG13; Piece: 1179; Folio: 33; Page: 18.
      Birth date: abt 1871),
      (Birth place: Longford; Abington, Berkshire, England),
      (Residence date: 1901),
      (Residence place: Harefield, Middlesex, England

    4. [S30] 1871 England Census, Class: RG10; Piece: 1261; Folio: 28; Page: 5; GSU roll: 827845.

    5. [S30] 1871 England Census, RG10 1261 28 3? (page Number Indistinct) (Reliability: 2).

    6. [S31] 1881 England Census, RG11 1279 Page 8 (Reliability: 3).

    7. [S32] 1901 England Census, SG13 1179 Page 18 (Reliability: 3).