Eliza Alder

Eliza Alder

Female Bef 1829 -

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  • Name Eliza Alder  [1
    Born Bef 20 Feb 1829  Berkshire, England View who/what we know about this place  [2
    Christened 20 Feb 1829  Appleton, Berkshire, England View who/what we know about this place  [3
    • The baptismal record states “Baptised privately because of sickness.” It may have been true but she must have recovered if she went on to have a son. Another possibility is that the baptism was held privately to enable the “Eliza as the daughter of Harriet’s mother” deception to take place.
    Gender Female 
    Census 1861  White Hart, Fyfield, Berkshire, England View who/what we know about this place 
    • Based on the research carried out by Sheila Wheatley and Paul Barrett, the 1861 Census record is incorrect. There appears to be little doubt that Eliza Alder who is stated as being John's daughter in law is, in fact, the illegitimate child of John's wife Harriet, who bore her two years before marrying John Barrett. She is NOT the daughter of Elizabeth Winter.

      Paul Barrett 08 Aug 2017
    1861 England Census
    1861 England Census
    1861 England Census
    1861 England Census
    1861 England Census
    1861 England Census
    Old Research Notes William and Elizabeth Alder
    Old Research Notes William and Elizabeth Alder
    The Mysterious Percival H Alder-Barrett
    The Mysterious Percival H Alder-Barrett
    Histories
    The Skeleton in the Closet
    The Skeleton in the Closet
    This research article deals with:
    - The parentage of Liza Alder born 1829
    - The parentage of Percival Alder/Barrett born 1859
    - The relationship, if any, between Liza Alder and Albert John Barrett.
    Person ID I459  Main Tree
    Last Modified 13 Sep 2017 

    Parent Thomas George Weaving,   c. 28 Jan 1807, Fyfield, Berkshire, England View who/what we know about this place 
    Relationship Putative 
    Parent Harriet Alder,   b. Bef 14 May 1809, Tubney, Berkshire, England View who/what we know about this place,   d. Apr 1868, Abingdon, Berkshire, England View who/what we know about this place 
    Relationship Putative 
    Notes 
    • While the father of Eliza Alder is unrecorded, I, at first, thought it was possible that it was John Barrett, the man that Harriet marries 2 years later. Equally it was possible that the father was someone else, that the recording of Elizah as a child of the people that were her grandparents was for the sake of propriety, and that meeting John Barrett happened later. John certainly seems to have played a part in the deception, for as long as Harriet's parents were alive.
      Paul Barrett 08 Aug 2017
      Update:
      Sheila has researched this and has found a baptism record for Eliza Weaving Alder 20 Feb 1829, illegitimate daughter of Harriet Alder of Tubney "Baptised privately because of sickness." This leads us to believe that Thomas Weaving was her father. For the full article see the link below.
    Histories
    The Skeleton in the Closet
    The Skeleton in the Closet
    This research article deals with:
    - The parentage of Liza Alder born 1829
    - The parentage of Percival Alder/Barrett born 1859
    - The relationship, if any, between Liza Alder and Albert John Barrett.
    Family ID F425  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Children 
     1. Percival Henry Alder,   b. 11 Nov 1858, Tubney, Berkshire, England View who/what we know about this place,   d. 19 Jan 1881, 2 Mythlon Terrace, Kingston Road, St Giles, Oxford, Oxfordshire, England View who/what we know about this place  (Age 22 years)
    Last Modified 8 Sep 2017 
    Family ID F165  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  • Event Map
    Link to Google MapsBorn - Bef 20 Feb 1829 - Berkshire, England Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsChristened - 20 Feb 1829 - Appleton, Berkshire, England Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsCensus - 1861 - White Hart, Fyfield, Berkshire, England Link to Google Earth
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  • Sources 
    1. [S12] 1841 England Census, Class: HO107; Piece: 24; Book: 23; Civil Parish: Tubney; County: Berkshire; Enumeration District: 4; Folio: 4; Page: 3; Line: 6; GSU roll: 241203.

    2. [S12] 1841 England Census, Class: HO107; Piece: 24; Book: 23; Civil Parish: Tubney; County: Berkshire; Enumeration District: 4; Folio: 4; Page: 3; Line: 6; GSU roll: 241203 (Reliability: 3).

    3. [S2] Berkshire,England FHS CD of Parish Records, Abingdon Registration District Volume 2 St. Laurence Church, Appleton Parish Registers 1569-1839 Baptism Register Page 66 (Reliability: 3).