Name |
Eliza Alder [1] |
Birth |
Bef 20 Feb 1829 |
Berkshire, England [2] |
Christening |
20 Feb 1829 |
Appleton, Berkshire, England [3] |
- The baptismal record states “Baptised privately because of sickness.” It may have been true but she must have recovered if she went on to have a son. Another possibility is that the baptism was held privately to enable the “Eliza as the daughter of Harriet’s mother” deception to take place.
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Gender |
Female |
Census |
1861 |
White Hart, Fyfield, Berkshire, England |
- Based on the research carried out by Sheila Wheatley and Paul Barrett, the 1861 Census record is incorrect. There appears to be little doubt that Eliza Alder who is stated as being John's daughter in law is, in fact, the illegitimate child of John's wife Harriet, who bore her two years before marrying John Barrett. She is NOT the daughter of Elizabeth Winter.
Paul Barrett 08 Aug 2017
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![1861 England Census 1861 England Census](censuses/thumb_2017-08-03_14-46-05.png) |
1861 England Census
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![Old Research Notes William and Elizabeth Alder Old Research Notes William and Elizabeth Alder](img/histories_thumb.png) |
Old Research Notes William and Elizabeth Alder
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![1861 England Census 1861 England Census](censuses/thumb_1861%20England%20Census%2813%29.jpg) |
1861 England Census
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![The Mysterious Percival H Alder-Barrett The Mysterious Percival H Alder-Barrett](img/histories_thumb.png) |
The Mysterious Percival H Alder-Barrett
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![1861 England Census 1861 England Census](censuses/thumb_1861%20England%20Census%2838%29.jpg) |
1861 England Census
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Histories |
![The Skeleton in the Closet The Skeleton in the Closet](img/histories_thumb.png) | The Skeleton in the Closet This research article deals with:
- The parentage of Liza Alder born 1829
- The parentage of Percival Alder/Barrett born 1859
- The relationship, if any, between Liza Alder and Albert John Barrett. |
Person ID |
I459 |
Main Tree |
Last Modified |
13 Sep 2017 |
Parent |
Thomas George Weaving, c. 28 Jan 1807, Fyfield, Berkshire, England |
Relationship |
Putative |
Parent |
Harriet Alder, b. Bef 14 May 1809, Tubney, Berkshire, England d. Apr 1868, Abingdon, Berkshire, England |
Relationship |
Putative |
Notes |
- While the father of Eliza Alder is unrecorded, I, at first, thought it was possible that it was John Barrett, the man that Harriet marries 2 years later. Equally it was possible that the father was someone else, that the recording of Elizah as a child of the people that were her grandparents was for the sake of propriety, and that meeting John Barrett happened later. John certainly seems to have played a part in the deception, for as long as Harriet's parents were alive.
Paul Barrett 08 Aug 2017
Update:
Sheila has researched this and has found a baptism record for Eliza Weaving Alder 20 Feb 1829, illegitimate daughter of Harriet Alder of Tubney "Baptised privately because of sickness." This leads us to believe that Thomas Weaving was her father. For the full article see the link below.
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Histories |
![The Skeleton in the Closet The Skeleton in the Closet](img/histories_thumb.png) | The Skeleton in the Closet This research article deals with:
- The parentage of Liza Alder born 1829
- The parentage of Percival Alder/Barrett born 1859
- The relationship, if any, between Liza Alder and Albert John Barrett. |
Family ID |
F425 |
Group Sheet | Family Chart |